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Really?
I've heard that "Harry Potter" has been translated into latin... I wonder who's going to read it...
I believe that this kind of things (translations into ancient languages) happen only to attract people's attention...
They're kind of meaningless... None's going to buy a modern book in latin or read an on-line encyclopedia in ancient greek for example...
I really like latin but I'd never prefer to read a book in latin than in english... unless of course it's written by a latin author, yet again I'll need a dictionary...!!!
Well, just the first book of the series. It has also been translated into Ancient Greek. Now THAT would be funny. The Dursleys are called something like "Δούρσλειοι".
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Maybe they use, let' s say, some kinda protocol, e.g. for when a Pope is elected. Maybe the language they use on this document is a standardised Latin text, with just the name of the Pope and the date changing. I might ask somebuddy who' s been there.
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Personally I do not think that the residents of Vatican speak Latin. Vatican is just a small part of Rome, so I can' t believe that all Rome speaks Italian, while in Vatican they speak Latin. I do not cosider it as a living language.
No I can't
Well, I just set a prerequisite (imho) for a language to be called "living". I don' t think Latin is a living language, either.
Actually, if they speak and/ or write in Latin, we should consider it as a living language!!!
I hope I didn't disappoint you...!!!
The truth is that, even if they do not speak in latin (which sounds a bit unreasonable to me as well) and they use it only in formal documents, it is regarded as a living language... That is because they still produce NEW latin texts!
Yes, but a living language evolves, if Latin is just a language used by the Pope and the cardinals (Latin government, I should say?), then it does not evolve.
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In Vatican, Latin is still the official language of the government and all documents are written in Latin. Personally, I don't know whether this language can be considered as modern latin. And of course latin is still the language of the Catholic Church.
Well, if it is a living language, with speakers that have it as their mother tongue, then I guess you can. Btw, what does "Thanous" mean?
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@ Ο αναγνώστης: From what you've mentioned, you'll have your own guide!!!
Enjoy your trip and your stay there!!!
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First of all, good luck! Don't worry though!
The best way to choose the particular type of test that's more appropriate for you is to buy some past papers (of all the tests that you're interested in) and practice to see which one's the best for you (it will be obviously the one at which you'll have achieved the highest score!). Moreover, ask for your teacher's advice. After all, he/she knows your abilities better and is able to recommend the exam that's more appropriate for you!
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Hi!
Unfortunately I can't hear the songs you've attached due to some technical problems... The "ηχεία" of my computer do not work...
I know the greek word in quoatation marks seems a bit strange, but I can't find an english equivalent for it...
As for your other point (on Dutch music), I agree. The best way to reach the level of fluency that you wish is to read (articles, books etc) and, of course, communicate with the natives that you know. However, listening to Dutch singers / bands could really help you practice your oral competene skills in this language... So why don't you try it? In addition, it will help you keep in touch with the Dutch culture, which is actually one of the advantages that bilingual people enjoy! Not only do they speak two languages fluently, but they also enjoy the priviledges of a bi - cultural upbringing and education!!!
Er... Speakers, maybe? (For the "ηχεία".)
Ah, what a pitty! These songs are just amazing!
Well, I my accent in Dutch is almost perfect, the problem is, mainly, my voc.
And, well, I wouldn' t say I have a complete Dutch-culture education, but, well, only a difference in the way I think is something quite important.
Today, however, with globalisation, one could claim that that doesn' t make such a big difference, as people with only one ethinicity can easily interact with other cultures!
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That baby scares me:scared:.
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It depends on what kind of exercises you are good at. If you do well with multiple choice exercises, try the ECCE (Michigan), if you you are a communicative/productive type, try the FCE (Cambridge) or Edexcel' s Level 3 certificate.
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Regarding your other question (about Hatzigiannis), I have to say I mosltly prefer his older songs... Except "Φίλοι και Εχθροί", I do not actually like his more recent ones... I listen to some bands as well like Maroon 5, Linking Park and U2, but not that often... By the way who's Meatloaf? I've never heard of him/her... Do you listen to any Dutch music?
:no1:
Meatloaf... Well, I guess that one song is equal to a thousand words. No, ten thousand, music gives so much more than an image, which is said to equal 1000 words.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXrLxOTJk4[/ame]
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OLsrvhgY9A&feature=related[/ame]
As for your question about whether I listen to Dutch music, well, no. I noticed a Flemish band that I liked, though, might look it up when I have more time. If I do, it will be a part of a set of efforts to improve my Dutch (now, the only thing I have the time to do is read articles, well, even that seems difficult now).
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As far as your teacher is concerned, I completely understand the fact that he doesn't want to "force" you to study Informatics, because of the forth-coming panhellenics. It is, however, quite unfortunate that during our senior year we don't get the chance to "explore" other interesting fields and study other subjects besides the ones panhellenicaly examined...
Well, I have no choice but to agree. But nobody seems to be interested in learning C++.
I would also like to learn more at History, but, well, I just cannot afford this luxury (from the aspect of time).
Regarding the restaurants in London, we went to some very good ones actually... I don't remember their names, though, because it's been a long time since my last visit! In fact, my father (I went to London with my parents) who has studied there knew where exactly we should go and what is the most interesting to see during our stay there! What I remember for sure is that I really enjoyed my trips to London and that I was impressed by the city!!!
Ah, lucky you. What we were having was scum. The only worthy thing was some brownies and a piece of chocolate cake (but that was from the Natural History Museum).
I haven't heard of the actor you mentioned, so I don't know how he speaks... I've heard though of the mancunian accent... I think it is the accent spoken in the Manchester area. I haven't heard it myself though, since neither have I ever been there nor have I met any locals... Is it close to the english or to the scottish one?
Well, he mustn' t be that known... Yes, it is the accent spoken in Manchester, and, well, a bit rougher than English. I love the way the letter "a" is spelled in most cases. A deep, clear "aaaa" coming from the depth of your throat. And I guess the vowels are articulated for a somewhat longer time. But I can' t really distinguish it from a Northern English accent.
I guess it is closer to English.
But I forgot to say that I also like the Auustraaliaan accent.
As far as the last question you've posed me is concerned, I must admit that I don't devote much time in listening to music... Therefore I'm not very eclectic... I like many kinds of music [rock, pop, aritistic (how else could I translate "έντεχνη"?) etc]...
Αh, well, you mean, all kinds of music are artistic... I dunno...
Guess you got it fairly right, have a look at this:
https://www.hau.gr/?i=culture.en.past_event&itemCode=tselikas_1
If you click at "Greek", art music is translated to "Έντεχνη Μουσική".
I can't stand, though, rap and traditional folkore songs (λαικά)... Some of my favourite greek artists are Hatzigiannis and Arvanitaki, but I am not passionate about each and every of their songs... Moreover, I appreciate some songs of Madona, yet again I'm not that passionate... To put it simply, I enjoy listening to music and I like the work of certain artsists but I'm not one of those girls that go to each and every concert of their favourite artists, screaming their names and depserately asking for an autograph... What about you?
Ah, which songs of Hatzigiannis' do you prefer, the old ones or the more recent ones?
Ι mostly listen to bands, such as Nickelback, Aerosmith, The Proclaimers, Maroon 5, Keane. I am beginning to explore artists like Santana, Stevie Wonder, Jack Johnson. Oh, and I like Meatloaf very much.
No Greek music. Used to listen to Hatzigiannis when I was younger, but his two latest albums were a disaster.
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Greeks still think that having issues and feeling the need to dicuss them with someone else besides your loved ones, is quite a "shame''...
Well, that' s beginning to change, at least what I 've heard of.
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By the way, you chose quite an interesting issue for your presentation.
London is one of the most magnificent cities I've been to!!!
Well, yeah, erm... It might be the fact that it was all organised by the General Secretary for Youth, but I didn' t find it THAT magnificent. Did you find any worthy food there?
Well, these comments were referring to the videos themselves. You know, some videos of people who claimed to be Scottish and talked to present the Scottish accent, and teach how to immitate it.
But I also like the Mancunian accent, or, anyway, the way this actor speaks.
Ah, yeah, I know what you mean. When I watch a movie or TV series and somebody with a strange accent appears, it takes a while to get used to it.
Well, I hope you don' t mind if I introduce another subject (that doesn' t mean stopping with talking about the old one!). What kind of music do you listen to? Which artists do you prefer?
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Hi!
First of all, you shouldn't chat on the internet during the lesson...!!!
You should be paying attention to everything your teacher has to tell you...!!!
Ah, he doesn' t tell us anything. He said that if we wanted, we could have a lesson about programming, but nobody wanted to, so he said that we could make a powerpoint project and then do whatever we wanted to with the PC. So I put lots of photographs of London in the slides (the subject of my project was my trip to London), commented a little bit, and... voila! Now my fingers are free to go on the keyboard and the mouse, however I love to.
By the way, I think that the english equivalent for the word "πληροφορική" is informatics.
Ah, sorry, I meant that it is precarious to say that we were having a lesson, because everyone was surfing the Web. And I also meant to say "Information Technology", which, to my knowledge, is the equivalent for the word you mentioned, but, well, it never hurts to know many words for the same thing.
I've pointed out the pronunciation of "Edinburgh", because many foreign speakers confuse it, even if they are fluent english users. Did you have a scottish teacher who told you that? I'm assuming you had one, since you mentioned that you like the scottish accent, which isn't very well-known in Greece... The fact that you had a native teacher must have helped you a lot. According to linguistics, the best language teachers are the ones that are both natives and university graduates of the language they teach (i.e. greek, english, french, german etc litearature / linguistics).
Oh, it has helped me, especially with my accent and with loving English.
She is not Scottish, though, but English. But she told us.
Well, I cannot say that I know the Scottish accent. I just think I like it very much, from what I hear on videos on the Internet and on TV series. Plus, there must be a differentiation of the accent even between various areas of Scotland.
You shouldn't feel jealous because you haven't visited Scotland yet.
You are still young... You have a lot of time to accomplish your dreams, even the ones regarding travelling.
Let' s hope so! The thing is, apart from time, I need money and will:p.
The scottish accent is actually quite "rough"... It's usually hard for a foreigner to understand Scots while they're speaking. Not only is their accent different from the typical english one, but they also use rare idioms and phrases not commonly used in other parts of the UK. The fact that you can understand them means that you've reached a high level of competence in english...:no1::no1::no1: The same thing happens in greek as well. There is the typical "athenian" accent and other more rough accents like the ones spoken in Crete or Roumeli. Ofcourse, a native speaker can understand this kind of accents, most of the times. A foreigner (who has learnt greek), on the other hand, will face many difficulties.
I didn' t say I can understand them. I actually don' t know if I do. Do you have any video with somebody speaking Scottish? Cause I have searched a bit in YouTube, but I read at the comments that it is not authentic Scottish accent. So I dunno what to believe.
By the way, what do you mean by the phrase "private english school"? (a "φροντιστήριο" or a morning english speaking school, i.e. elementary school, middle school, high school)?
I meant "φροντιστήριο".
See yeh!
thanks!!!of course i know that i have to study and practise more this page will help me if i study as well
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when i grow up i wanna be a pscicologist..but im really upset about if my choice is the right one ...
you know i really like to give advice and help the others and i have to admit that im very good at it but i dont know if this job has pleasant wage or pleasant demantage (the second is the most important i think)...i dont know...what about you ?
What does "demantage" mean?:what:
Well, you should have asked me before New Year' s Day, I met a psychologist then.
From what he said, I inferred that if you have your own business and you keep getting customers (I don' t think that the world will ever stop being in need of psychologists), then you do have a satisfactory income.
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Hi!
I'm not writing to you as if I was writing a letter... I haven't put any address (προσφώνηση) or the typical introductory sentences... The final greeting is just a simple salutatory phrase... nothing more!
Alright! I just felt it is a bit too formal.
By the way, I'm really disappointed that none else partcipates in the conversation we're having... None's interested in improving his/her english language skills in writing? Do the others think that by obtaining certain typical diplomas, they "have finished" with language learning? Beacause, if that's the case, I assume they haven't found out yet that learning is a process that doesn't end, it takes actually a whole lifetime...
Ah, well, I guess that holidays are over and that everybody' s time is much more limited... I am having Information Studies now (well, you couldn' t call it exactly like that, but... ), so I am stealing some time from the lesson.
Anyway, you've posed me a lot of interesting questions... I'll start answering them one by one...
Yes, I've been in Edinburgh (it's pronunced "έντινμπρα").
Oh, I know. I had an native English teacher at private English school.
It is a wonderful town... I'd even characterise it magnificent... I'd definitely recommend a visit at the town's castle (of medieval architecture, it offers plenty of interesting information on scottish history), a walk down the Royal Mile (a traditional scottish road, with many little museums and folklore shops), a walk down Prince's Street (a more modern and commercial road, if you're interested in shopping), a visit at the Calton hill (it offers breathtaking view of the whole town). There are many things to do and many things to see in Edinburgh and Scotland, in general. Even a walk down the old narrow streets (I think they call them "closes") is quite fascinating, if you're interested in medieval history and architecture (I'm assuming you are, from what you've mentioned in some of your previous posts...)!!!
Well, I definitely wanna go to Edinburgh. I am feeling so jealous... SO many people I know have travelled abroad for Christmas, and I really wanna visit all the charming places I have heard of.
British politeness does go away in the cases you've underlined... I think it's because they have learnt to live by cartain rules, they have learnt a typical every-day routine in their own country and they need to have some "unrestricted" fun... That's why they bahave like this... keep in mind though that when they behave this way they're actually drunk, so they don't really control themselves and, consequently, they can't understand what they're doing... This happens to Greeks as well (i.e. car accidents due to drunk drivers etc)...
Well, haven' t heard of any Greeks doing the same thing abroad.
Not being able to restrict themselves on their own, but only under the pressure of law and control, means that this behaviour does not derive from their ethics or attitude towards the world and is therefore not genuine.
Yes, I have relatives and friends who live in the UK, but they're not natives. They're Greeks who study or work there.
Regarding the accent I prefer the most, I'd say I like the typical english one... It's more genuine and authentic... and quite sophisticated, actually...!!! What about you?
Well, I prefer the Highlander or Mancunian accent. They retain the originality and clearness of the typical English accent, but they are rougher and well, imho, more spontaneous. But I cannot imitate very well, so most of the times, I speak English with the Queen' s accent (the typical English you are talking about).
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Why are you replying to me as if writing a letter?
-Thank you for your wishes.:thanks:
Well, I know that I should get more than a bachelor' s degree. I might go abroad to acquire my MSc and PhD (if I get a PhD).
-Have you been in Edinburgh? I really want to visit that city.
Well, sorry if I am being a bit nasty right now, but where does this politeness go when the young Brits come to Malia, Chersonissos or Rhodos, get totally drunk, offend the law and promote a bad image of Greek tourism?
-Do you have any relatives living abroad?
-Hmm... interesting. You don' t hear a lot of people wanting to visit Brazil or Argentina.
-Which accent do you prefer in English?
Kindest regards,
Crookshanks.
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Hi!
- I've never come accross those statistics concerning the number of words that exist in greek or english... I'll try to look it up as soon as I can at the linguistics department's library..
Well, this is the thread I was talking about:
https://ischool.e-steki.gr/showthrea...9%EA%DE+%C3%EB%FE%F3%F3%E1+%EB%DD%EE%E5%E9%F2
- The architecture of both these eras (middle ages and the renaissance) is actually quite woth-seeing, if someone's interested in history or in hinstory of art, more precisely... Personally, I really enjoy visiting this kind of buildings... their architecture is fascinating... Some of them, actually, are quite breathtaking!
Oh, breathtaking, fascinating, call it however you want! I can' t wait to take my luggage and go around the whole world (but, then, I don' t know where to go first. I want to go to Japan -because I like Asian cultures, cherry trees, and the fact that Japan combines tradition, natural beauty and modern life. All in one! I wanna go to Canada, I love those beaches where you can simply lie and watch vast forests on the one side, and the deep blue of the Pacific on the other one! I want to go another round in Belgium, and visit Ghent, Brugge, Brussels, and, of course, Antwepen, in remembrance of these good old days. In Prague, Edinburgh, Rome, Vienna, Egypt, India, oh, I do. But where should I go first? And, most importantly, will I have the time and money to go on such trips? We' ll see!).
- Of course not all people living in the UK are English.. There are also Scottish and Welsh as well as people of a variety of origins, that just live and work there (you can also see many people from India and other former British colonies)... Even though I haven't lived there for a long time in order to communicate with many of them and be able to form more accurate and justified conclusions, I've never come across so "cold and distant" people as many others think... Maybe it's just me... I don't know... What I know for sure, though, is that I really appreciate their organisation, punctuality and politeness... I always miss these qualities when I return to Greece...
Well, they might be polite (I mean, they are), but the question is, is their politeness genuine? Because I find that "Could I please have a cup of tea, my dear child?" a bit hypocritical.
- Unfortunately, I don't think I'll taste the cheese you proposed, since I'm not a fan of cheeses, especially these rare (usually french) ones that smell terribly... In fact, I'm not a fan of dairy products in general... Thanks, though, for your suggestion!!!
Ah, well, never say never.
Let me, now, pose an other question, in order for us to keep this topic alive and at the top of the list...!!!
Which other countries have you visited and which was the most interesting of them...?
Well, I 've been in the Netherlands, of course, a bit around Belgium, and a bit around England.
The most interesting... Well, that would be EXTREMELY subjective to answer, as I have spent much more time and done much more things in NL, than any other of the countries I mentioned. I have certainly found numerous exciting things in all of these countries.
How about you?
What do you think of studying in the future? (I can see that you're now a senior and I suppose that you've already made up your mind...)
Ah, well, I want to be a Biology researcher, but haven' t decided in which field yet... I am interested in Neuroscience, Genetics, Toxicology (though that would be a little more Chemistry, I guess. But I have a natural appeal to poisons.), Evolutionary Biology. I am most likely to enter the Biology department of the University of Crete, even though I would sooner go to Thessaloniki (I want to leave!!!), but it is widely said that Heraklion has the best Biology department in Greece, so...
But it wouldn' t be bad at all, if I write a book and it becomes a success. I also like writing (never wrote a whole book, though, always came up with some new idea and went on to write a new one without finishing the old one, that' s bad, I guess), but, well, it is not that dependable, and I don' t think that I could easily stay away from research opportunities...
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Actually,i didnt catch this particular sentence.
Totally agree with ur opinion about coldness and cosiness.
Good night,sleep tight man.
Oh, well, it' s good to agree with you, then. Though it would be more interesting if you didn' t.
I meant "worlds", I was typing from a netbook and these little flat keys are most inconvenient to write with.
Hello! The fact that you're making mistakes is absolutely natural, since you don't get the chance to use Dutch in your education for example... This doesn't mean that you're not a native Dutch speaker... Besides, even native speakers (of any language) make mistakes... If you'd like, however, to improve your skills in Dutch, the best way to do it is to start reading books in Dutch, newspapers (if you can find some, here in Greece) and, of course, talk to your mother as much as you can, since she's a native speaker!!!
Ah, well, that' s what I am doing (reading articles on the Internet, now that I have time). But it is very difficult. I have to cover gaps of about a deacade in language development.
Ah, who would like to talk to their mother as much as they can?
(Not that I don' t like talking to her, she is really open-minded and a talkative person.)
The typo mistakes aren't of great importance...!!! Don't worry! We all may type something the wrong way (both in english and in greek)!!! This doesn't mean, however, that we are not fluent users...!!! Reading all your posts so far, I can easily assume that you're quite a fluent user of english (at least, as far as written expression is concerned)!!!
Well, thank you. I always liked English (and foreign languages in general).
Regarding your other question, the one concerning the richeness of greek, I have to say that I've never counted all the words of the greek vocabulary, so that I can compare its variety with other languages' vacabularies!!! What probably makes it reach is the fact that many foreign languages use greek terms in the field of science (especially, in medicine)... However, foreigners try to adapt these terms into the phonetical values and the pronunciation of their own language!!! The same thing happens in greek as well!!! Even greek can use foreign terms, adapted into its morphology and its phoenetics, by adding for exapmle a "greek" suffix... i.e. το ρήμα "σκορ-άρω", το ουσιαστικό "τραίνο-ο" etc...
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Well, there is a topic in "Generally and Vaguely" (how should I translate "Γενικά & Αόριστα";) about the English language reaching one million words, whilst the Greek has, if I remember well, 5 bn.
Of course, I know not how they count all these words.
Thanks for your suggestions!!! I'll take of all them into account when I decide to visist the Netherlands!!!
Oh, do decide it. Don' t forget to ask for "boerenkaas". Traditional cheese. Resembles Gouda (which is actually pronounced "Gaauda", not "Guda") cheese a bit, but is much more tasty and pungy. I like it when it gets old. When it is old, it is called "brokkelkaas" (cheese that shutters). Oh, it' s a heaven in your mouth (or hell).
I've been in Belgium, actually... I liked it a lot... Brussels is a very interesting town, of medieval architecture, and with many worth-seeing visitors' attractions, like the Grande Place (my favourite one)!!!
Really? I am really keen on medieval architecture. Antwerpen is of Renaissance (oh, I got that word wrong, at first, I typed it with two "n"s) architecture, it is awesome.
People there are very friendly and helpful, and a european, multi-cultural air "dominates" in the whole atmosphere...
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Oh, yep.
Though it is being threatened by some racist and far-rightist ideas, e.g. Islamophobia.
I disagree!!! I've been in the UK many times and communicated with many natives and I didn't get that impression at all...!!! They are not so cold and distant as many people think... They're in fact very friendly!!!
Oh, well, let' s make a clarification (even though you might know about it): Not all people living in the UK are English.
I have been to London once and, well, I cannot say that I received much cosiness.
What makes them a bit different from us, Greeks, is probabaly the fact that they're really organised and punctual...
Well, that is the case with almost all other European countries, esp. those in northwestern Europe.
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I really can't understand why people who have never travelled abroad jump into generalising coclusions like "the northern europeans are cold and distant" and stuff like that...
Personally, I could live in a northern european country, because I really appreciate their organisation and punctuality, that Greeks lack...
Well, Swedes are cold, of what I know. But, indeed, generalisations are unjust.
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I would rather face some more coldness than get feigned warmness and cosiness. I hate pretentious situations.
I meant that I would like to challenge you for a game of chess, but that I want to go to sleep and that my performance is deteriorating as the day goes on. It is a problem with my studies, too.
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Well, it' s a different words. And it is we, Greeks, that are supposed to be warm people and open to others.
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Aha! Well, I would challenge you, but I want to go to bed in a while, plus, my stunts aren' t good after 8 p.m.
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V.L., do you play chess?
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Read your comments and you 'll probably understand.
Oh please, is that the best you can do? Huh!
I actually fried them.
Ah, most unhealthy and fattening. But well done!
No,we didn't go to Antwerpen,but we went to Paris and Amsterdam
I'd like to live either in Brussels or in Amsterdam,cause the way ppl behave makes me trust them,and they all seem,or anyway the ones i had contacts with,very helpful and open-minded.
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Talking about Amsterdam,I went there about two months ago and I can say I loved it!!!It seems so romantic,and the freedom that reigns in this city makes it even cooler.Unfortunately,my stay there lasted just one day cause we were living in Brussels(we went to amst the way crook described).Well,brussels is like a big village,you know,ppl are very polite and generally i felt like it was welcoming us not like travllers but like real citizens.
I am eating eggs at the moment,which I made by myself...(Waiting for congratulations)
Ah, those Belgians... I like Belgians, and their craziness...
Have you been to Antwerpen?
Did you fry or cook the eggs?
Congratulations my dear...
Ι'm a terrible cooker.Last week I overboiled my spaghetti.
That doesn' t have to do with whether you are a good cook or not, it has to do with not looking at the clock and forgeting to act at the right time.
Don't you know the word?
I challenge you to prove your word.
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@ Crookshanks
First of all,
Thanks for answering all my questions...!!!! I've never meant for you to feel like a lab rat.... Sorry, if you felt like I'm examining you or something, but the use of two native languages is a very interesting issue... Don't you think?
Don' t feel sorry, I was just joking. Yes, it is, I have heard that the part of the brain associated with language use is stronger at bilingual persons. So I guess that' s why I didn' t find it difficult to learn Engkish (sorry if I make typing errors, but I am writing from a netbook and it isn' t the handiest thing to write with).
Linguistically, whether you are a fluent Dutch speaker or not, you are considered as a native Dutch speaker, because, as you mentioned in one of your previous posts, you were born to a Dutch mother.
Oh, well, then it is superfluous to sAY that I am delighted to her that:thanks:. But isn' t a native speaker supposed to be most fluent with the langyage he is native to?
The fact that you can use english better than Dutch doesn't lead consequently to the fact that you aren't a native Dutch speaker... Don't worry, then!!!
From what you've written, I don't have to have studied linguistics to assume that you have two native languages (greek and dutch) and a second language (english)... I'd like to underline at this point the distinction between native, second and foreign language, in order for you to clarify the meaning of these terms...
NATIVE language: the language that someone uses because he/she was born to parents speaking that language.
SECOND language: the language that someone can use with the same or approximately the same fluency as his/her native one and plays an important part in someone's education.
Well, that' s the point that disturbs me (not because you mentioned it, but generally). I don' t even know how to write properly. I make lots of mistakes.
FOREIGN language: the language that someone uses less fluently than the afore-mentioned native or second language and isn't an important part of someone's education.
There's a trick in linguistics, in order for someone to find out the level of competence he/she has reached in a particular language: If you can dream that you're talking in a particular language, it means you've acquired it as your native or second language!:no1::no1::no1:
Well, I 've dreamt talking in Greek and English (with some tourists, it was a most amazing dream, like a fairy-tale, was it, and funny, too), but I cannot recall dreaming of speaking in Dutch.
Keep in mind, however, that none can ever master a language!!! We all need constant improvement, even regarding our native language(s)...!!!!!!!
Oh, yes, there are thousands of words that we don' t know, even in Greek.
As far as the so - called "superiority" of greek over other european languages is concerned, I'd like to point out, first of all, that most of the european languages derive from a common ancestor, the indoeuropean language that linguists suppose it existed before the devision into all these languages spoken in the European continent, based on the great number of similarilities in grammar, syntax and vocabulary that these languages appear to be having. Secondly, we should not confuse a language's history, variety or richness with the terms "superior" or "inferior" language, that, as I highlighted in one of my previous posts, do not exist in linguistics!!!
I hope all these scientific details didn't bore you!!!
No, not at all! Wasn' t that scientific that I didn' t understand! I' d agree with you in all that, but wouldnn' t you say that Greek is, indeed, a much richer language? Without reference to superiority.
In order, though, to make our conversation less "linguistic", I'll pose you an other question, of general interest: Have you ever been in Netherlands? Would you recommend someone a visit there? What's the most worth-seeing thing for a tourist to visit?
Well, I have been in the NL some times, but I don' t remember how many.Unfortunately, I don' t go every year there. The last time we visited my grandparents there, was this summer, but before that, it was in 2003, so I really had the time of my life there.
I would certainly recommend the NL for holidays. It is a small place but with an awful lot of things to see, and it is easy t get to all of them!
I would say that the Efteling is a very nice park to visit (it is an entertainment park, a bit like Disneyland, but with some more emphasis to Nature, google it for more details or visit www.efteling.nl). Woudrichem is also a very nice place to visit, it has retained a deeply traditional character and walking in the streets of this beautiful little town feels great., There is also slot Loevestein, a medieval castle, near the town, which you can reach with a ferry-boat. Amsterdam is also nice, but I didn' t have much time to see it as I would like. And if you ever go there, don' t waste your time and money by sailing in the canals, you won' t be able to see anything. On foot is much better, though Amsterdam is a little chaotic. I have to confess, though, that I liked Antwerpen much, much more (but Antwerpen is in Belgium). Antwerpen is less than two hours away by train from Amsterdam Centraal, so I 'd say it' s worth visit, if you ever get to Amsterdam
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From what you have mentioned, I can easily assume that you're a native Dutch speaker, therefore a bilingual student...
Approximately. I 'm afraid that I might disappoint you a little. I speak Dutch quite well, especially after starting my attempts to improve it. But I still have a lot to learn. In fact, I do better at English, and I am sorry for that, but that' s the truth. My language capacity in Dutch isn' t much more than the one of a ten-year-old child, maybe even less. After my sister was born, I stopped having much contact with the language, you know. She has a genetic disorder called PWS, so she couldn' t really speak Dutch (Greek took over). She now begins to learn a few words, but just a little bit, like a foreign learner, you know. I actually sometimes think that I might also be like a foreign Dutch speaker, but then I remind myself that I started speaking Dutch before Greek, and that I still think in Dutch when I am talking in Dutch.
I'd like to ask you then if it's difficult for a foreigner to start taking dutch lessons... is it a difficult language in general or is it easy for someone to reach a high level of competence in this particular language?
Well, I wouldn' t say it' s easy. Dutch is a bit similar to German, though with simpler grammar rules. It is, in my opinion, a "soft"-to-listen-to language, in contrast to German, which sounds a bit harsh to the human ear. However, bear in mind that this is subjective.
It is not very difficult, either, though. It has standardised phonetic values, and a clear syntax. Of course, I have never learnt Dutch this way (with grammar/syntax rules), so I am being subjective here, too.
In addition, I would really like to ask you if you faced any difficulties at school, due to the fact that you're bilingual... Was it easy for you to speak both greek and dutch fluently? I'm posing this question beacause after taking linguistics' courses at the university, I became very interested in the way bilingual children behave (regarding the aspects of a language, of course) in non-bilingual schools and in a non-bilingual environment outside their homes... In other, more simlpe and less "scientific", words, did you ever face any problems like confusing greek and dutch words or expressions? Are there times you prefer to speak in Dutch, for example, rather than in greek?
Oh, I alwayes prefer to talk in Dutch, so that I improve it. Well, I did have some difficulties at first, I had learnt the alphabet from a Fisher-Price game, and I already knew it when I went to primary school, but I had difficulties expressing myself in both languages. Then, I started reading books (in Greek), and this thing went away. I started talking so much that my parents told me I 'd get a chocolate, if I stopped talking for five minutes.
Regarding the question you've addressed me (the one about the supposed greek's superiority over english), first of all, I have to admit it is a very interesting question and a bit thought-provoking...
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to present all my views on that matter... I will, however, try to summarise the main points of my thoughts...
I don't believe in the superiority of a language over an other... It is not linguisticaly accurate to state something like that... All languages are unique and have a special significance for their speakers... The fact that a language has been spoken more centuries than an other is not actually a scientific criterion... Linguists characterise and categorise languages according to their internal structure, their morphology... They do not divide languages into superior or inferior ones... People who make such assumptions have no idea of linguistics and linguistical theories on language categorisation...
I hope my answer was satisfactory enough... As I mentioned before, there are so many things to say about this issue that I've only summarised some of them... Feel free to ask me more questions on that matter...!!!
Well, those who say that Greek is superior base that claim on the greater number of words in Greek, the more complex syntax and the nativity of most Greek words... What do you think about that?
Well, I don' t agree with the distinction "superior to infererior languages", but, well, it is not exactly superior or inferior, but linguisticly rich.
Ιmmaturity...:stop:
Huh? What do you mean?
excuse me, do you believe that a number of 3000 words is enough for the proficiency?
Ah, don' t count them like that. Amongst those 3000 words, there will be a portion you will already have learnt, or that you will already have encountered before. Or some derivatives from a word you already know. You also enrich your vocabulary when you come into contact with the living language (for example, read a book in English, listen to a song in English or watch a movie without paying attention to the subs). So counting the words you learn is not necessarily going to reflect reality.
Good morning guys! How are you today?
Dear Crookshanks,
It doesn't matter that you didn't get the chance to answer all my questions... I understand I've asked a lot...
Anyway, though, when you'll have the time (and the courage), please answer to my post, especially to the questions concerning the way you manage to use two native languages, because it's an issue liguisticaly interesting for me...!!!
Kind regards,
Lita Athens
All right. I 'm gonna be your lab rat, if you want.
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...of greek, comparatively to the english
The "the" should be removed.
I would very much like to answer to your post right now, but I gotta leave. I will just say that I am dissapointed it is something I just didn' t understand (the "contradiction" you said), rather than an expression that I didn' t know and that I might learn.
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You are an imperfect idiot.
The donkey said to the cock that he' s got a big head.
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You can't believe in me when you don't believe in your father. You reject your roots and it's a shame. YOU should become a better person. Of course I can't become a better person. I am just perfect.
Short-sentenced speech. Very, very unfashionable and an insult to aesthetics. Who' s perfect?
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Ι do not believe in the DEVIL. I believe in you. I have faith in you. You can make it. You can be a better person.
Predictable... Are you a fortune teller or sth?
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Well... I am not a creation of nature.
You are the DEVIL in a feminine form.
Eeeeeevening, I am trying to find out about the meaning of life.
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That's why I will pose you another question, in order for us to keep this topic alive...
How did you decide to study english in the future?
Hmm... Is that some kind of expression?
Coz I don' t get the meaning of "How did you decide to study english in the future?".
I did something in the future?
Κing's pie, Queen's pie....
What is all this?
It is scum. Our King' s Pie was a bit... underdone.
@ Crookshanks...
How come you've been learning Dutch? It is not a very common language for a foreign to decide to start learning it...
Well, I am not exactly learing Dutch, but improving it. My mother comes from the Netherlands and I don' t speak Dutch as fluently as I would like to. I feel very strongly about ameliorating my skills in the Dutch language, so whenever I feel like it, I read articles in Dutch, and I persist in speaking in Dutch with my mother.
@ Crookshanks
Regarding the other questions that you've posed...
yes, I' ve been learning english for all these years for one or two hours per day... it was a compulsory subject for the school I went to and it was of primary importance, equall to the one of greek... anyway, I still need improvement... besides, language learning, as well as learning in general is a process that takes a whole lifetime...
Oh, yes, it does, indeed!
It was not at all depressing... It was actually one of my favourite subjects as a student... That's why I'm still keeping touch with english by reading, speaking with natives when I'm abroad etc... I hope it won't surprise you to know that I'm thinking of applying for a master's degree in english literature at a uk university...
Ah, you have already mentioned that. So, given that you are a greek language student, and that you are so fond of english, what do you say about what is being told about the superiority of greek, comparatively to the english? Many people claim that english is much poorer a language than greek. What do you think?
@Crookshanks
As for devouring sweets,Id better not draw from my own experiences,if i wanna be on the safe side:p
Ah, why not? Don' t you like chocolate?
About the point that you highlighted,concerning my dream of travelling unceasably throughout the world,I think the home I will have obtained will be the whole world(or anyway the countries I will have stayed in).Besides,my family will be here,open to welcome me whenever I return ''home''.
However,I cant say I wont miss my country and my connections here.Thats why I wont limit my dream by saying that I will stay abroad as much as possible,but I will follow my heart and whenever I feel like returning to Greece or staying abroad,I will give it my best to fulfill my desires each time of my life.
So what if you travel to a faraway country, you meet an extraordinarily beautiful woman, you get head over heels in love with her, and you stay there to make a family?
Lita,I am also thinking of attending a summer school this summer.Once a fellow student gave me a leaflet about campus summer lessons and I also made a research on some unis.What I actually have to pinpoint,and what definitely caught my eye, was the lessons Oxford offers.But,a desire to go this summer to Oxford is far from real,due to the quite astronomical fees
Bah, you have got nothing to lose, I think. If these schools are even slightly similar to the university faculties, then you would be living in a depressing little room and eat in a dark hall with portraits of some supposedly great men all around you..
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The ones that haven't been fully baked and are not very dry inside are the best!!! Actually, the more they're dripping, the better!!!
Ah, well, about that, my mom did not agree. I made them a bit drippy, and they' re really good (although not equally tasty to the ones I have eaten in my holidays this summer), so I might send you some.
I knew about the butter... that's what makes them fattening, yet at the same time so delicious...!!!
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Not chocolate? Ah, never mind about a little extra intake of calories. You 're not gonna die.
P.S: The butter in "kourapiedes" that smells terribly is what makes me sick...
The butter contained in brownies and this kind of sweets doesn't smell like that...
Aha! Is there any chance that the butter used in almond cookies covered with powdered sugar (how else could I translate "κουραμπιέδες";) is made of goat' s milk?
So,how did you guys spend your holidays?Or how would you want to spend the christmas holidays?
Ah, well... Frankly, not as well as I would hope to. Getting up at seven thirty and studying till four or five in the afternoon is not the dream of every kid having holidays, but well, that' s how this last year is like - so I shouldn' t complain. Or should I? I really have no idea.
Nevertheless, after studying I cycle, read articles in Dutch (to improve myself in this language!), listen to music, and, well, wasting (?) my time in iSchool. Btw, do you think that this forum is a waste of time?
Your turn guys,but pls acknowledge for once and again that my knowledge on cooking is limited by far,so pay some attention to the new subject if possible.
Well, how about your knowledge about devouring delicacies?
I don't know anything about cookery either... I 've just mentioned the sweets I prefer... this doesn't mean though that I can cook them!!!
Well, brownies are easy to make. I made them today for the first time in my life, and they were a total success!
But,anyway,I still have a lot to learn to say that I am a very good user of the language.
Well, comparatively to the average Greek student, you certainly are!
As for my future career,I dream of travelling all over the world,especially Europe(hope it doesn't sound very EU-friendly:p).Unfortunately,I wouldn't be fulfilled if teaching english in Greece for my whole life,I believe in freedom of the mind and the body,so what else other than books,people and travelling can offer you that?
Hmm... And won' t you ever feel the need to have a home? Somewhere cosy to rest, a place to feel familiar with?
Thanks!!! I've been learnig english from the age of 6 untill the age of 18 for one or two hours per day! I'm trying as well to keep in touch with this particular language by reading english literature (in the original english version, not translated in greek) and by attending summer schools in the UK...
:!: Really? How come?
Wasn' t that depressing for you as a little child?
What exactly are these summer schools?
I have to admit that I completely agree with the way you've decided to approach a foreign language! It is quite admirable for a 17 year-old student like you to be able to appreciate the significance of literature in language learnig... I've mentioned it in many of my previous posts in the english language section but I've never found someone who agreed... They all pay attention to the skills required in order to obtain the typical diplomas... I'm very pleased I found a student that can really understand the link between language and civilisation and the way these two notions interact...
Well, actually, reading english literature is an enormous help for those who learn English. Most students, however, abstain not only from reading books in English (nobody encourages them to do it, anyway), but also from enjoying the wide range of books that are offered in Greek, whether from a Greek or foreign author. The educational system makes children hate books, as they link them with all the boring and tiresome rules and trivial facts that they are forced to learn.
Happy new year!
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Hi! I hate both small honey cakes (interesting and quite accurate translation, by the way!) and traditional "kourampiedes" (the smell of butter makes me sick)...! I mostly prefer chocolate cakes and brownies and almost anything that has chocolate stuffing...!
OH, YES! That is GOOD!
I wanna bake some brownies tomorrow. Let' s hope they are not gonna end up very dry... I don' t mind if they still drip a little.
Did you know, however, that brownies contain butter, too?
Hm... Is it your syntax wrong or is it that my English sucks?
I like melomakárona, by the way.
I want a vampire to bite me would be better, I think.
I don't like stuffed turkey very much... I can't stand the smell of this particular dish... I didn't know it had liver in it... that's disgusting (at least, according to me)! I could never imagine eating liver...
Ah, well, maybe that' s why.
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Objectively, there are hundreds of stuffed turkey recipes out there, and you might find that some do suit your taste.
As far as the other festive dishes are concerned, I mostly prefer chicken (without the stuffing) or pork...
I really like the traditional "δίπλες" as well as any kind of chocolate stuffed sweet...! I absolutely love chocolate... i couldn't imagine life without it...!
Well, I could. It would be less fatty.
But no, I won' t buy it. Chocolate is adorable.
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It just doesn' t suit you.
They live exclusively on raw material.
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I also hate mushrooms. Bloody little pieces of mold.
Ah, kourabiedes are much better than Small Honey Cakes.
(IMHO)
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Small honey cakes.
Ah, I love the filled turkey. With chestnuts. But I also like the King' s Pie. Guess that it doesn' t count, though, it is not a Christmas dish.
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My heart gets broken every time it sinks to the bottom...
So, so, what is your favourite Christmas dish?
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Sounds like Baywatch... And I hate Mitch Bukanon
Who' s that?
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But what did you mean?
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Had. I came back yesterday. :iagree: But I had a good time undoubtedly. Best waffles and sugar cakes in the world; you're bound to get fatter there.
Ah, did you bring any stroopwafels?
Boooring!!! I've been many times because of the business of my dad and every time I want to leave as soon as possible. Belgium is really pointless anyway...
An action may be pointless, a city can' t be, though.
Of course, if you have been somewhere so many times, you will certainly get bored.
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Currently in Brussels; great city, gloomy weather. As you probably have guessed, I'm in some internet cafe with no greek symbol options available. So I have to stick to English for a while.
Brussels? Ah, I' m sure you' re having a really good time!
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No no, I wasn't having the exams at that time, I just cursed the final exams because I have to do extra lessons at the summer to do well
How many friends do you guys have (And when I say friends, I mean real friends, not just the people you hang out with)?
Ah, then we are in the very same position..
I dunno if I can answer that question. REAL friends are extremely difficult to find, and even more difficult to keep. I have been, well, if not "stabbed in the back", then at least very disappointed by some people and I cannot know if I can completely open my heart to anyone.
No one.Am i the only one?I just hang out with some people.But they are not considered as REAL friends to me.
*by me
You certainly are not the only one.
"Is it time to return the Parthenon Marbles?" Uk newspaper The Guardian wonders.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/poll/2009/jun/24/elgin-marbles
That must definitely be the case. We have to support the request. The Parthenon marbles are our heritage! (And I don't wanna hear anyone call them the Elgin marbles, for God's sake)
P.S: You can find Melina's speech at Google - it's really interesting and worth reading.
Ah, well, I think that events and opinions now tend to incline towards their return. But some people in the british museum are really stubborn and narrow-minded, hence I guess more efforts will have to be put.
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Oh god what i have done?I hope that the punishment will be not very hard!!What i have to do to rectify?
Rectify? You cannot make up for the horrific sins and cursed acts that you have committed. You are doomed.
Oh my god you are mean enough to make me cry!!
:mad2:
Wanna have a run too?:whip:
The problem most Greeks face with English's that they never actually practice them. I've read a good amount of posts on this topic and while you all mostly know the vocabulary, most of you also can't make a correct phrase. That's mostly because most of you never visit any forums with people worldwide, to practice your English. It's quite sad, really, to see the Greeks use the internet so much, to go study English so much, but in the end, they can't communicate very good with people in foreign languages. Guys, you all should try visiting English forums, there are forums for all kinds of things, find a forum related to your hobby or something and chat with other people, the same way you do in this here forum. Personally, I visit forums about videogames and chat with all kinds of people and practice my English. I would never have taken profficiency if I didn't considering how lazy I am (I never studied English at school).
Isn' t "proficiency" written with a single "f"?:what:
Laziness is quite a relevant thing/condition.
Going to sleep...3:22 right now and I got lessons at 9... Damn final exams
? Are you crazy? You gotta get up at 9 and you were still awake?:stars: Anyway, did you do well?
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Ι would like to go in England,Scottland and Ireland..I don't know why but i love those countries..Final exams...Is hard i know and the first time is harder..You have to get courage..Everything is gonna to be ok!!
*Scotland
How about Canada? I love those huge forests.
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It is basically a European Constitution, adjusted so that it meets the demands of the French and the Dutch, who rejected in 2000 sth. I don' t think it does anything more than favouring centralisation. Heard that it gives more responsibilities to the European Parliament, but it has been a long time since I read it and I don' t remember...
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Hi guys..firstly i would like to be met...my name is maria...i would like to ask you if you like i-school...of course yes...but..answer me please///thanks..
It is great!
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I mean that I don' t like paying constant attention to my sister. She gets boring.
I didn' t say that I don' t love her, but our relationship is not the classic brother-sister one.
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I didn' t complain. I like children, and I like paying attention to them (except if it is my sister).
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Oops!Sorry for the delay!I've just saw these new posts.
1)Well ,here it is the very sophisticated Crook's message:
2)Generally I agree with you.When I say ''pretentious language'' I refer to the use of complex,rare and very formal words (while it's not necessary) in order to impress the others(''στομφώδης γλώσσα'' in greek).In my way of thinking this is a bit funny.
3)off topic:my little brother wanted me to put these emoticons in my post:
'':no1:''
So I made his favour.
1) Without "it".
3) How old is he? What is his name? What class of Primary School does he attend?
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Use of sophisticated vocabulary implies a sophisticated person too?
Don't think so.
Simple words are real wisdom, hm?
Not necessarily, but if sophisticated language comes out withouth real effort (not like the reply I sent to Domenica to her request for help, she knows, er, well, she might want to publicise it, coz I think I have deleted my PM box), naturally, I mean, then why not use it?
I believe that there is no rule such as "always use sophisticated vocabulary and syntax" or "always speak and write simply". Every occasion and every subject requires different use of the language.
I think that you are right.The greek word for those people is ''λεξιθήρες'' .In my opinion using pretentious language is a little hm..rιdiculous.
Word hunters, you might have said.
What, in your opinion, is pretentious language?
In Soviet Russia Ioannina loves YOU!
From Russia with love, Mr Bond.
Give my regards to the babushkas.
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I am not responsible for your ineptitude to understand what I'm saying.
And I am not responsible for your ineptitude to express yourself properly. Djimmakos
what is the meaning of that,little weirdo???
I had the same question.
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I referred to this occasion, but I was generally speaking about the consequences of the libani
Oh I totally forgot it. Nobody forces me to go the church, so going to it is my answer..Just read between the lines and you'll understand.
Then you should write about them in a separate sentence.
1)Well,actually I knew it and not it's no a coincidence.Mad cow disease was caused by feeding cows parts of sheeps or even cows.They were made ''pathetic cannibals'' in someway. And that obviously is against the nature.
2)haha..really?..ok..I'm gonna tell you the true..:who:I'm a 79 years old lady from england and I like talking with youths..
Well, I do not think that a 79 years old lady from England (i.e. a native English speaker) is going to put the word "true" in the place of the word "truth".
*sheep, its plural is irregular
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Did I tell you that I referred to this specific occassion?
I hope you know the meaning of the phrase "generally speaking"
I was at the church before and the smell of the smoke has a terrible effect on my neural system
I.e. that you had been to the church some minute (or hours) earlier. So yes, you did refer to this specific occasion(), and if you did not mean to, you should have spoken (actually, written) otherwise.
And you still did not answer my question concerning whether your visit to the church was advertent or inadvertent.
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*committing
Oh, yes, sorry, that one is inexcusable on behalf of myself.
I think Djimmakos can clarify whether my assumption is true or not
Well, I don' t think he needs any special "herbs" to get out of his mind.
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It's possible that the priest of this church uses some *cough* *cough* odd smelling herbs instead of normal incense, if you know what I mean
Bah, you are comitting BLASPHEMY!
Cannibalism is rare, though it is perfectly understandable in terms of genetic selfishness. Ethically, though, it is cruel (not that killing other animals isn' t, this is a matter that deeply concerns me), but if you have no other choice but to eat one of your own species, what should you do, die of hunger? I think it is a custom which has developed exactly due to the lack of food in some areas. I mean, you cannot go hunting in a dessert island with no other land in the vicinity.
Btw, a local tribe in New Zealand (if I am not mistaken), who used to be cannibals, were the first organisms who had the crazy cow disease (I do not know how it is in English). Coincidence?
Domenica, when you said "Oh,stop it..you're being disgusting..." you sounded to me like an old lady, resembling to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of England, who would say that in a most despiseful way, a bit like "Oh, no Shanky, don' t lick the shoes of the lady!" when her little doggie was naughty.
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*cough*
About your correction now, the smell of the smoke HAS a terrible effect on my neural system, considering the fact that every time I go to the church I experience this sense of bit-doom-da-doom-ala-di-doom [
Oh, church, alright.
Yes, but when you refer to a specific incident that has happened to the past, you should use the simple past tense (if you mention when it occured), or the past perfect tense (if you don' t, and which is our case).
You didn' t answer my question.
Oh,stop it..you're being disgusting..
Like Hannibal?
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Ok, I apologize. Will you forgive me?
I was at the church before and the smell of the smoke has a terrible effect on my neural system
Well, it is more than sure that we will lose control in the near future..It is up to us to reverse it, though
Apologise? I do not accept the apologies of an Americanophil freak.
(You mean that the smell of the smoke has had a terrible effect on your neural system -which is already a bit doom-da-doom-ala-di-doom-.)
Was your visit to the curch advertent?
I completely agree with you. Today our needs are more demanding than ever, and thus we need something that will be capable of satisfying these needs. And this "something" is technology.
Technology has been making our life easier and safer.
Actually, humanity owes its survival to technology. It is doubtful whether humans would be able to survive without the progress of technology (medicines etc), without which we would be eating bananas on trees right now(). We wouldn't be able to use our PC at the moment, not only because we wouldn't even know what PCs are, but because we wouldn't have electricity, not even a house to live in. We would live in caves making company to wild animals. Technology is everything. We owe the quality of our life to technology. But we must use it with prudence. We must not use it to create weapons of massive destruction, we must not use it to harm other people or the nature (plants, animals). In cases in which harming the nature is inevitable (e.g. factories), we have to make sure to take the essential precautions and measures to limit this harm to the minimum possible.
I could have spent much more time writing about this issue, but I'm too tired for it right now.
:thanks:
Actually, we could survive without the use of technology, but then, we would be nothing more than smart chimps. Actually, chimps do employ branches, etc. as tools, so I guess we would be something even more inferior.
i want 2 become an instant translator/interpreter.
sorry 4 my long+difficult-to-understand msgs.i've told u about my jelly-like brain.
sth inside me was whispering my having asked smn bout their origins.so sorry...(i think i'm really close related 2 Sokrates-after all we both have the DEMON inside us)
we can also say turn it down/up....
and people don't forget that:"this used 2 be a Playhouse but now it's full of evil clowns"
well if u ask me...i dont fite her with anything....
Ah! So I guess you wanna study in Corfu, don' t you?
Jelly like brain... Hmm... What is its flavour?
I feel that I am closely related to Demokritus. Maybe we should consult a fortune teller.
I thought that the phrase "turn down" means "close".
Actually, it also means "reject" (a proposal).
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Yes, but don' t you understand that we might lose control if we 're not careful?
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The users do not use this radiation, they (we) are just exposed to it.
[You were talking about the radiation that most of the devices that we use release and not about the radiation that people use for their own benefit (e.g. X Rays etc), right?]
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Personal satisfaction and inner serenity
Actually, it is different. The modification "in technology" implies that technology makes use of radiation.
I can earn exactly the same by consuming this:
I need something more persuasive
My respect.
Whether you want it or not is another subject.
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I want to answer you as long as the bold text,but I can't express what I'm thinking in english.I don't want to make you correcting my post for the rest Easter holidays.
Never mind, you should try nevertheless.
The phrase as long as means "under some circumstances"...Maybe erasing the :long as: would be just fine
Now, the correct form is "make someone do sth", so you should not use the gerund form
Finally, you must add a "of the" after the word rest
I am evil, I know..Crookshanks taught me this way
Thank you teacher
Oh, almost forgot it...I am keen on writing essays and compiling extended answers..Crook, are you aware of anything interesting that we can discuss?
I didn' t teach you that, you' re the old one in this English topic (and in correcting).
Well, what' s more interesting than counting sheep?
How about the subject I was discussing with nikous? Hey, I want all of you to participate!
*Crook's
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Crookshanks', you %@%#^^.
"Djimmako, I will break your mouth (?) the next time you will correct a post of mine, which is less than two lines."
Without the last comma.
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II.
III. Alright, I didn' t mean to offend you! I am just having some difficulties reading your texts.
IV. Woof, woof.
I am at θετική, and I do not intend to be examined in that inhumane lesson called Ancient Greek. I aim to study Biology, so I think I am going to stay at the same school discipline.
What kind of faculty do you desire to go to?
V. Er, well, the thought that the term is a bit obsolete did actually cross my mind, but I was too enthusiastic a thinker and writer to erase it at the moment. Actually, there is nothing wrong with the words themselves, it' s just that some people have given them a different meaning.
VI. Ah, well, be cannot be sure. But I do believe that many people exaggerate with all those dangers that the use of technological equipment might sustain. Actually, if electronic devices were THAT dangerous, many people would have been dying of cancer. It is true that talking regularly on the mobile phone for hours -personally, I don' t have one- can bring about health afflictions, but their controlled use is not the most dangerous thing in the world, I believe. And when I refer to control, I mean that we shouldn' t use our mobile phone unless we have no other choice. Asking to use a cabled phone won' t make one sound poor, old-fashioned or mobilephone-phobic, if that' s what they think.
But then we come to GMs. And that is what can cause real problems. You mentioned something about DNA mutations. Well, quite a lot of scientists claim that the human organism does not have the necessary enzyms to break the molecules of the new DNA or the proteins the latter creates -to be precise, designs-. Consequently, cancer risk gets higher and higher.
I still have to say, though, that the danger of humanity' s being manipulated by food companies -you know, food is not something you can easily do without for a few days, unlike petroleum- is much, much greater than any health implication. I just don' t want Monsanto to control half of the Earth' s food trade.
VII. Don' t think that I did less mistakes. No that I see it, have written a silly " but I wish the best of luck" (forgetting to include the object, "you").
Ah, you did not offend anyone.
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Hey!What's up?
What are you gonna do in/on/at/during*Easter holidays?
*I've a small problem with prepositions as you can see..
When you refer to a period of time that is longer than the event it is centred around or to one that is not a standard time unit, you should use during.
What I am going to do? Well, study (for school), study (for me), surf the web, maybe go to see granma and for a walk. Nothing special, really. I' d like to go to Heraklion one of these days (I dunno, I feel like shopping, I have already ordered some stuff from Plaisio), but I have to... look after my little sister... Never mind... It would be difficult to find someone to go with anyway.
i'm studying dead!!!and it's bad!!!people avoid the damn class like the plague!!!it's soul-destroying,useless+noone should never go through it!
i hate eggs!so blue -since it's the most kitsch-or green is perfect!it's just makes them justice!
GMs is so discussed a topic that the arguments are pretty much the same.for instance:"GMs r bad , 'coz' it's against the law of nature" or "GMs are fine,they r the answer to famine problems"
so i put this topic forward:
do u believe that the lifestyle we r leading 2day will eventually lead us 2 destruction.more specifically d u think that all the food we consume and all the radiation we r exposed 2,will finally take their toll on us?do u think that our genes r growing stronger or weaker?discuss!
Er... Aren' t U being a bit 222222222222222 casual?
I mean, that "no one should never go through it" doesn' t sound nice.
Never mind, enough with my nagging. I can' t get myself in your shoes -as far as the ordeal of the 3rd class of Lyceum is concerned-, but I wish the best of luck. Be patient, there' s only one and a half (maybe less, I never did well with the sense of time) months left!
Ah... Our lifestyle... I guess you refer to the lives that people in the industrialised world lead.
First of all, we have to make clear that food supply is enough for everyone in the world. More than enough. So there is absolutely no sense in talking about a danger of famine. People are not starving due to global food deficiency, but due to the selfsame lifestyle we are talking about -the economical exploitation of Third World countries is what allows us (mistake, not us, but food merchants) to buy food at low prices-. Almost all households in the West throw food away, because they buy -and cook- more than they need. OK, I don' t say that we should eat food with mold. We could, though, make more careful projections of our nutritional needs. Not to mention that quite a lot of people often consume extreme quantities of food -let' s say, kilos of meat or lots of hamburgers/gyros pies, according, always, which country we are talking about-.
Secondly, no radiation from everyday appliances or GM food is able to exterminate the human species. Many people might have health problems, mutations could take place, but that does not mean that all those things can be a direct threat for humanity.
If we are going to be under threat by someone, that is going to be ourselves. Food companies, electronic companies... There are huge financial interests involved in the subject of our lifestyle, interests that may cause political turmoil, intense international relationships and even war -though manipulation is always preferred, owing to its relatively bloodless character-. The recent series of wars involving the USA (the Gulf War, the war against Tito, the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq) are clear examples of how those interests work. If wars continue to occur, they might even lead to a nuclear disaster. Most western countries have forgotten the pain and might of war, whilst peace has given them no reason to be happy, for it is international, not sociopolitical. It wouldn' t be a surprise for many series of wars to break up. (We should destroy weapons before it is too late.)
So here comes an obvious threat that we have to deal with. And, as I am too tired to develop that huge part of this conversation, I will leave it for later, or up to you!
Oh, and as far as genes are concerned, there is no point in talking about "strong genes" or "weak genes". Whether a gene is strong or weak is dependent on the conditions around the corresponding organism. A gene for a long neck -actually, there might be or there might not be a gene for a long neck, but we are refering to such a gene in favour of simplicity- is strong in a habitat where food is only available on tall trees, it is weak, though, in one that it is also available on the ground, as a long neck makes the species that posess it an easier target for predators, relatively to other species.
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Well, they are inappropriate for consumption, but should (virtually, they are) be accepted for medical purposes.
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I (mainly my mother, but sometimes I like making pizza too) also use chilli, tomatoes, smoked turkey, and lots, lots of garlic! You can also mix oregano, fresh pepper and/or chilli or any other spice that you like with the deigh... (I forgot what the word for "zymh" is), no, it' s actually "dough"... anyway, with the dough.
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Homemade gyros is the best.
I don' t think it would be called "gyros", then.
Gyros huh?:/
Hmm.. I'm not really keen on gyros.
I prefer pizza.XD
Me too, but not that disgusting thing that most so-called "Italian Restaurants" serve. This is some kind of American thick, soft bread with too much cheese and greasy ham. That is absolutely disgusting pizza. REAL pizza is consisted of a thick layer of crispy bread, some cheese -in the original version, this was Mozzarella- (not too much, just to cover the bread), tomatoes and oregano. Well, I like pizza that has salami or peppers on it, though under conditions -I don' t think that a lake of fat on the cheese is the most healthy -not to mention delicious- thing in the world-.
I particularly insist on the oregano and garlic part. Those two ingredients give pizza an extraordinary taste.
stoooooooop talking about this kind of food!!!!i'm hungry but i don't eat meat as Easter is coming......
It' s not our fault, nobody forced you to abstain from meat. If you cannot stand it, simply don' t do it. Personally, I would advise you to reconsider the effect religion has on your life.
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You don' t have a fast food,
you know a fast food restaurant
the gyros of which
Really? Oh, then I might come round!
Though I prefer meat ball pie.
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I have no pic, I told ya. Did yeh thin' 't was gonna be so easy? Gotta earn it, hey, yeh!
Just tell me, for how long am I going to be surfing the Web?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offal
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Ι sure need a pic!
What is a pic, my dear?
Pic is an abbreviation for "picture".
I'm gonna tell it to your mom, nia,nia..And she will make you eat broccoli.
Really,what's your favourite foods?
I broccolo! I trully do!
*what are your favourite dishes?
I love chicken satay with bami goreng or nasi goreng (one of my previous avatars, a souvlaki-like thing). Pastitsio, Chicken Pilafi, Spaghetti Carbonara -the original one, not that disgustingly creamy thing they make here-, meat pie with vegetables and a real tiramisu for dessert are all reaaaaaaaly welcome.
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(Actually, I have none, I am too drunk to take a photo.)
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well,i guess we're even then!
i have no favourite drink.hate drinkin.when i drink,it's all on other bad,deceitful,astute+many-other-negative&deceit-like-adjs people that seduce me with their heavy drinks as a part of desiring my my hot tussy!
seriously.i don like drinkin so i usually tell other people to order 4 me,me being a total push-over.but they know that i can't handle that much of a drink,so they order sth nick-like,ie sth pretty soft...
what do u other people drink?
I drink almost everything ,except beer,whisky & votka.Is too much for me.I'm really fond of sangria.
Well, I don' t drink alcohol at all. Only in pastries (such as tiramisu).
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Haha..Ok,you're right!I do.
Ah... Poor insects...
it's actually be ashamed of.
i was quite uncertain about the prep after opinion-so thnx it really hels me get better+better.
well my brother was trying 2 find me an e-mail pseudonym and there was this crazy story about him calling me "nikous" the day b4,that in addition to the one single tequila shot that reaaalyyyyyy blew my mind - coz i'm not quite the drunkard-type - made me give in to his wicked+slughty proposal of naming my e-mail "n1kous".so here i am.
(sorry if the story was tooooo long)
and also!"parrot-fashion" OR "by rote" is what english use 4 our παπαγαλια,-ιζω etc.....
hunting is 4 dumpheads(no offence if u're hunting guys!) and ummmm....nope.that's all,folks!
Oh, my mistake, thanks for noticing that:no1:. We can call it quits now.
You can also say about (after the opinion thing).
Tequila... Br... Alcohol... Br... Aye, aye, I hate its smell... I don' t think that I like being drunk.
So tell me! What is your favourite drink (general question)?
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oh dear!
yes. Indeed!
(προσπαθώ να ανεβάσω τον αριθμό των μηνυμάτων μου...)
Then do it in English, please.
It's ok!!I like being corrected.That's really helps me to improve and refresh my english!I wanna thank you,honestly.(Ok,I 'm gonna buy it even if it's commercial.By the way Mrs Loti Petrovits-Androtsopoyloy told me about this huge amount of money for the advertisements.She is familiar with the marketing director of Harry Potter books.)
@nikous:Oh,thanks!( kind liar)
Ok ,new topic:
What do you think about hunting?Do you like hunting?
OK, then let' s get started!
*that really helps me
why did you put that damn apostrophe?
I would advise you to put commas etc. (I don' t remember how they are called), because they do take their usage into consideration when they correct a composition (esp. in the Michigan ECPE).
HUNTING? I HATE hunting.
It might once have been necessary for humankind to hunt, but nowadays, it' s cruel. They' re killing animals for no reason, just for fun, and that alone (that they like to kill) demonstrates their morality. Many hunting practices torture the animal-target, as it is forced to move for many kilometres hurt by the hunter' s (or hunters') dogs. Not to mention that hunters often do not respect the law, and hunt protected species or species during their reproduction period (which is prohibited). Last but not least (that is a parrottish expression, I know -note that no word such as "parrotting" exists in English, it is my own invention), humans might also fall into traps, and that huuuuuuuuurts... Imagine how many animals are hurt this way every year, just because some people are sadists.
On the other hand, hunting might still be vital for the survival of some people living in remote areas (e.g. Siberia).
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What can I do?
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Oh!I haven't bought the new one yet,so I don't know.
Ah, you should! And you should buy the ENGLISH version!:no1:
well since we are in this crazy correction process,i'll have a say as well.
"Ron's twin brothers" OR if u wanna go with ur way,rain or shine "the twin brothers of Ron"-whose existence i seriously doubt.
and as 4 harry potter books:
a.i don't find them as commercial.it's just a widespread spectacular story.
b.i agree with the movies part
c.what do u think of the fight of Hogwarts???
the conclusion of my potter-experience:each and every one of the books is literally unputdownable!!!
p.s.:what does ITER stand 4?
urs sincerely...
Crazy correction process.
c) Well, one of the most adventurous chapters of the last book, but I still prefer the escape from Gringots. I love dragons, you see.
Ok,thanks for the corrections!!My english is horrible so please forgive me.
Whoa, whoa, wait for a minute! Many corrrections are going to be carried out in a few seconds, but nobody wants to make you feel sorry about them... If you want us to stop, you just have to say it, there is nothing you should be ashamed for.
a.Well, actually I've heard that it has been spent an exrtaordinary amount of money for advertisements etc..So Harry Potter's books is more books with excellent marketing.I really liked them -I mean it,I can still remember even the commas in those books-but now I think that they are not something so special.:/ I don't know..Anything commercial makes me feel sick.
Well, actually I've heard that an exrtaordinary amount of money has been spent for advertisements etc...
So H.P. books are more of a book series backed-up with excellent marketing (I don' t think this is exactly how you wanted to say it, but knowing what you wanna say in Greek, I thinkn that it cannot be translated to English).
You have heard?
Well, I think that you must know how Harry Potter began, and I don' t think it is commercial at all.
b.You are right!Terrible special effects and not exactly what the books say.
Yep. And the actress starring as Umbridge was absolutely hypocritical, she hadn' t got the role right.
c.The fight?You mean when Sneip killed Dumbledor ( i don't know how it's written)?I love it!One of my favourites parts!However I didn't like the way Rooling(neither this i know how is written ) described the funeral of Dumbledor.
Snape
Dumbledore (no, you are not supposed to know this).
Rowling.
favourite (without an s)
(neither do I know how this is written)
Well, actually he is talking about a chapter in the seventh book.
You should read it, it' s quite different to the rest (meaning that they' re probably gonna leave Hoggie-Poggie and the rest of the Wizardcraft learning stuff).
what r u talking about!u should never feel sorry 'bout ur english -which btw is not that horrible.it's pretty good actually.
thnx 4 ur ITER-answer.
and 4 the record:snape-dumbledore-one of my favouritE parts-rowling-i don't know how this one is written(Spelled) either.
and i stil have no opinion in ITER
say sth new.pls...
(you have an opinion on, not in a matter)
I really liked the scene when Rowling said Harry had named one of his sons after Severus Snape. Not adventurous etc, but emotionally exciting!
How come you call yourself "N1kous" and not "N1kos"?
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Well, my favourite now is the last one.
The escape from Gringots was absolutely fabulous!
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Actually, it is "participant's". The word "every" is followed by singular.
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I think I' ve reached 40 (my favourite one at that time was the prisoner of Azkaban), but now I laugh at the thought of it.
No, it' s not exactly commercial. Most books are hardly commercial. Now, that after Harry Potter came books that were Harry Potter - like, is another story - these are commercial, actually.
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Well, actually yes. But not the movies (the last two are utter failures).
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Hahaha..You are welcome my sweetheart..
P.S:I'm just joking of course.I wanna thank you for your corrections.You really help me become better.
Yes, I know, everybody' s telling me the same after I thank them.
Joking too.
If you have any questions, we will be glad to answer them.
Anyway, what are you up to?
Destroy the world... Muhahahaha!
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Well, that's why I'm here for
(that's why I'm here OR that' s what I'm here for)
Thanks, Domenica! No one has ever spoken with such nice words about me!
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PS: You can say "Oh, damnit/dammit", or "Shit!".
But no more, f-beginning words are insulting.
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I agree with you.In my opinion alternative sources of energy like solar is a better solution.However I'm not against to nuclear energy as long as it doesn't pollute the enviroment of course.
Check your text again. You have two errors.
Do you think that there is any source of energy that makes absolutely no harm to the environment?
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I have a doubt about how feasible and enviromentallly friendly is in the end this project.
Ooops.
Alright.
There are many claims OR Many claim...
I have doubts (I' m not absolutely sure if "I have a doubt" is false, but in the case above I wouldn' t write it like that) about how feasible and enviromentally friendly this project actually is.
Well, the superfluous "l"s are owing to your distraction by something, I think.
(you can' t say "in the end" here, the expression can only be used literally)
Also: you say "How environmentally friendly is this project?" but "... how environmentally friendly this project is".
Well, I think that we should invest more money in solar energy. If we manage to create solar energy panels (I' m not sure if this is the correct term) that can expoit greater amounts of the energy that solar radiation transfers, it would really mean an energy revolution!
("In my opinion" is never placed at the end of a statement.)
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Actually, it is the ECPE (Examination for the Certificate of Proficiency in English).
Well, having studied for six months in order to sit for the ECPE, I have gained some experience on learning -and, consequently, teaching-.
Many of the words you will learn are rarely used and will soon be forgotten, but anyway.
2) Keep on reading literature. Harry Potter is a good book to read in English.
Although I would say that sticking to unknown words distracts you from the general plot of the book and destroys the experience of reading. If you really want to learn vocabulary, you have to do it systematically: find some words in examples -these may either be inside books that you currently read (but I recommend that you do this after you have read the book for the first time), or, preferably, words from a good companion- that are worth learning. Study them, use them, then study them again.
Hey, you didn' t propose anything.
What would you say about the ITER?
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ι'm taking fce and ecce exams in May....!!!!!wish me luck!
I wish you the best of luck, Luckta!
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And I don' t think that "study for Proficency" is quite correct, you study for a certificate. "Proficiency" is not a certificate, it is the state of a person being able to speak a laguage fluently. In Greece, we use the word to describe all certificates that prove such proficiency in English, but this is a misuse of the word.)
Well, most Grivas books are pretty useful, but relying on them to learn vocabulary is disgustingly difficult. The companion of the new book (I had in the summer) provides a mere translation, nothing else. If you want to develop your vocabulary skills, you should prefer a book with a good companion, which includes a definition of each word in English, synonyms and derivatives, as well as one or more examples. Otherwise, you will find yourself knowing many words that you do not know how to use. Apart from this, the vocabulary section of the Michigan ECPE (if I' m not mistaken, this is the certificate you want to attain, right?) often requires that you know trivial differences of words which are very much alike (e.g., the word inheritance and the word heritage - they are both translated as "κληρονομιά", but the first one refers to meaterial goods, whilst the second one refers to both material goods and culture (mostly to the latter).
Any topic to discuss?
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A good grammar book... hmm... in proficiency level, you are supposed to have complete knowledge of the grammar rules... Well, it is actually not about rules, the best way to be good at grammar is feel the language. To do that, of course, you will first have to learn some rules, and then transform them into language consciousness.
Nevertheless, there are some grammatical phenomena that are quite unusual and are not mentioned in ordinary grammar books... Some books (like this one) include appendixes, though, which explain most such cases. In practice, however, you' ll find many exercises in the grammar section that are not clear grammar, but which may also contain phrasal verbs and some expressions or the use of prepositions, and which can only be learnt through the correction procedure plus some study.
Good luck!
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never mind dont worry many people make mistakes
but you have to know that the "you" takes "were" in all the cases.
bye
yg only for the past
The underlined words should not be included in your text.
Who would you like to spend two months on a deserted island with?
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Parroting. The affliciton of today' s Greek schools. Parroting exhausts the spirit, but offers almost no substantial knowledge, as a parrot just repeats, without actually absorbing knowledge (don' t use the term "parroting" in any English essay, it is a word existent in Greek, not English). It calms the mind and creates manipulatable personalities. That is exactly what the "big ones" want.
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If you sit for the ECPE, then you won' t have to worry about letters, anyway. You just write essays (articles).
If you sit for the CPE, though, you might have to write a letter. Though 'adding-your-own-bit-of-style-in-a-formal-letter' is exactly the goal. Parroting is forbidden in any Proficiency examination!
*looser*
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*born*(bear-bore-born)
P.S.: No rant at all.
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well i'm always glad talking to a "talking toddler"!dunno if i'll go blind since i've read it just 3 times...and thnx 4 the "offer"-thing.but i'll go with "offering"...BTW r u a native???
P.S.there r other things threatening you with blindness...so don't believe what they say about practice and perfects-rather misleading
Why "toddler"?
Nope, I' m not a native English speaker. Though I had once made this particular mistake in a composition, and my English teacher corrected it.
I think that I will have to worry about blindness only when I reach the age af 70.
Lower you daily coffee income :p
I think that the term "coffee income" is not an appropriate collocation. I would prefer the term "coffee inception".
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A conversation requires that all the participants are informed about the topic that is discussed :p
Well, you can go to Google News, if you want.
as far as wars r concerned i know one thing:
"Some wars result in complete and total victory.Some wars end with a peace offering.And some wars end in hope...But all these wars are nothing compared to the most frightening war of all.The one you have yet to fight."
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No.actually i had no idea.but no that you mention it...hmm...nope!still nothing.not interested in politics.education may be sth that concerns me,but this doesn't automatically mean i'm interested in politicians' ideas...
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how come you're all so high n mighty?hmm...must be true then...books may also damage your brains after all...beter stop soon...do you think it blinds as well?
:xixi:
Oh, thanks, I am high and mighty... Haven' t been told this before... I might buy a crown, you know... Maybe I have a royal ancestor
I guess that, after extensive reading, your eyes might get tired. Though I do not think that you might get blind just because you have read Harry Potter 7 20 times.
*better
*offer (suits better)
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Why 're yeh askin'?
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Jimmy, please be kinder to your fellow iSchooleagues.
Every war is civil, 'cause all people are brothers.
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Please, tell me more about their conflict. I haven't heard about it.
Well, they both have some ideas about the projected changes in the educational system, though they disagree. They have exchanged personal attacks, the harsher ones being Mr Veremis' (directed to Mr Babiniotis). Mr Babiniotis teached a former professor of mine, and I have heard good words of him, so I think Mr Veremis is too strict.neither have i...and i had never heard of the word 'scatology' either!!!so, tell us please what u are talking about!!( i really fancy these interesting discussions!!)
Use these beeping asterisks that Crook told you :p
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Exactly:no1:.
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Ι am here and I am open to discussion
No, you are the definition of narrowmindedness. Discussion is an unknown word to you
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I think that the term "scatology" (or "coprology") is the study of feces.
Well, that is true, but it is also used for describing a discussion with a stinky content.
neither i...!!!!
Neither you what?
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You know damn well that I am talking about scatologies.
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Zip_unzip, why do you have a lemon as an avatar?
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Crookshanks
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Lou, I just noticed you are only 13! I sometimes felt as if you were 16! I dunno, you can take this both as a compliment and as a little tease, but you know, I daydream about those nice old times! It seems so weird...
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