kellyj
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I obtained it in 1987. it is the certificate of proficiency of the University of Cambridge.I just would like to know if it is valid , in general. For, i know that it is valid for the public services for life. But, if I planned to go , let's say, for a master diploma abroad, should I do something to verify my qualification again? thank you very much, kelly.
sweetie, there is no way to submit it .You are talking about more than 20 years ago.In the UK they recognise the CAE, CPE, BEC H,and IELTS for both undergratuate and postgraduate studies.In the USA they recocnise the CAE, CPE, IELTS and ofcourse the TOEFL.Scores vary depending on the institution and programs you want to apply for.Visit www.cambridgeesol.org/recognition/search.php to search the recognition database online
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I would like to say that hearsay is not a reliable sourse of information.
Many people have said that this exam will be accepted by asep and they have been saying so for a long time. But it doesn't matter what people say. What matters is what Greek and British law states. And so far according to the above Uclan is an exam that can not be accepted by asep
alas, I'm not the only voice of reason here.
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I didn't mention that I passed the ECPE examination......I have already recieved a degree in german and in may i will stop german lessons if i recieve b2...then I'll focus on my school lessons
wwooww!you must have had great teachers.you are one lucky girl.
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Dear Kelly,
I would like to say that UCLan C2 WILL BE recognised by ASEP. Someone that works in the EUROPALSO told me that. Moreover, teachers and reliable people agree.
All the best,
Chris
They have been dragging this thing forever,there's been lots of speculation regarding its fate and,yes, if you were to ask a dozen people you wouln't get a straight answer.Either way, wouldn't you think twice before recommending it to sb?
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:pthank you SOOOOO MUCHHH!!!
don't get your hopes high.
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Dear Teo, can you send me the latest FEK?
go to asep.gr,search for πιστοποιητικα γλωσσομαθειας and you'll see for yourself.
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Dear Kelly,
I would like to say that UCLan C2 WILL BE recognised by ASEP. Someone that works in the EUROPALSO told me that. Moreover, teachers and reliable people agree.
All the best,
Chris
when was the last time you talked to UCLAN people?because last time I checked they said things don't look good but they were still hopeful!
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You may search all the available FEKs here--->https://www.et.gr/search_publication
oh,i'm sure that helped him a lot!
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do you think that cambridge F.C.E or michigan ECCE are better than e-dexcel ??
my teacher says that cambridge is the best... now she wants me to take and the cambridge prof. but i'm not sure that i will be able to "take" it , so , i will try out the michigan prof. and after taking its results, i'll see what i will do
{ sorry if i make mistakes, but, i stopped my english for two months, and when i stop, sometimes i make stupid mistakes...
What do you mean by better?Sure, they are more widely known but since they are all approved by the greek ministry of education there should be no question of better but of widest recognition worldwide and their appeal
because of format or history.Also, you shouldn't compare profs.They demand different skills and even their vocabulary basis is different.Do not
for a minute presume that if you prepare for the michigan ,you can go on and sit the cambr.after 3 months.(well,if you study5 hours a day you might)If you started with cambr. you could sit the mich. after 3 months,however.Anyway, listen to your teacher and keep meupdated.I would like to know about your progress.
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I'm strongly disagree with yoy dear kellyj.
I believe that this certificate is as good as the others certificates...
if by good you mean accepted by the greek ministry of education and asep then yes it is as"good" but when it comes to format it is by no means friendly.allow me to give you just one fact:one of the writing tasks depends on your undersranding of a readind passage from the reading part.this means if you fail to comprehend the passage you will either fail to prove your vocabulary skills or best case scenario fail to adapt your writing skills to the ideas already given(e.g.paraphrasing ).Allow me to give you another piece of information:the listening answers are not all "set".I will try to explain:in the cambridge fce listening part 2 where you are asked to fill in the gaps the answers are specific and the key provides ALL possible answers accepted,the edexcel DOES NOT.to better understand this you should have a look at a key but this is not possible for you.Not to mention other points that you wouldn't understand anyway.
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do you think that cambridge F.C.E or michigan ECCE are better than e-dexcel ??
my teacher says that cambridge is the best... now she wants me to take and the cambridge prof. but i'm not sure that i will be able to "take" it , so , i will try out the michigan prof. and after taking its results, i'll see what i will do
{ sorry if i make mistakes, but, i stopped my english for two months, and when i stop, sometimes i make stupid mistakes...
I have to agree with your teacher.Although i'm american,I'm a diehard fan of cambridge exams(for various reasons).Allow me to tell you one thing only:consider yourself very fortunate to have such a teacher because the fact alone that she urges you to sit fce and cpe says a lot about her.As for the michigan you are mistaken if you think for a minute that it's easier.You do know that you have to pass each part,right?You should also start preparing for the speaking part at least 3 months in advance because they don't even know what the hell they are doing,and they don't care.(to put it simply you need to repeat the same stuff 4 times without adding info or "expanding "the prompts given.now if you figure out a way to do that let me know,please!in fact the lady that presented the new speaking to us at a seminar here in salonika didn't know how to do it herself;but then again she could barely speak english herself.it makes one wonder!
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hi again...
i have and another question...Can you explain me what the "e-dexcel" exam is??
yet another english exam held by palso north greece.(a group of frontistiria)It's not easy and you have to study for it just like the rest of them.I personally don't like it but I can't tell you some things and others you wouldn't understand.The point is if you are an upper-intermediate student with a vocabulary of over 5000 words and above average level of listening and writing(<60%)you can sit any exam you like(at least 2-one for backup)
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hi again!!!The problem is that one of the teacher who make me feel bad is the principal of frontistirio........She is horrible!
So, I ready carefully your advice and I went and I told her about my problem and she said that she is authorized to talk like this way about me !
I get angry and I told her to never ever behave to me so bad.Then, she get nervous and I went home!I told all the story to my parents and they didn't believe me.
The next day ,my teacher was normal and since then she hasn't told anything about me like this way before.Sorry about my english,I know I 'm not good but I try hard...
good girl,you did a very brave thing.now i don't know why your parents didn't believe you but there are many ways to make them believe you.for example ,invite another pupil at your house and ask them to support your story.they might not believe you but they will surely believe another student.also you could record the teacher secretly on your phone and that will definitely prove the truth.as long as you are telling the truth.
either way don't worry.if you don't want to upset your parents just be patient until may and then change schools for good!
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thanks for the tip(if only i knew how to use the keyboard)the damn things aren't sold with a manual-speaking simple english has proven even more difficult for me though!Kelly, use some basic punctuation...please
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does anyone know some way to build listening skills?
of course dear.it depends your level though and exam format.be more specific please otherwise i can't help you
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finally i decided to take private lessons with teacher i found her and she doesn't want a lot of money so on Thursday i have my reunion lesson...
that's for the best my dear. now even if she gives you a placement test, you need to start with grammar!also you need to be precise about your goal.tell her which level you want to reach and then she should come up with a suitable curriculum and time plan for you.best of luck and feel free to ask any q you like!
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This time i have a teacher for German cause I'm learning German as well..
But i can't afford to pay to teachers....
That's way i'm asking your advise for some books. I have to refresh everything in my head and then start with a teacher... I'm not in a rush, i dot first off all for me...
So can you give your lights pls????
it's extremely difficult to do both languages because they come from very different linguistic backgrounds so it will be very confusing for you, but if you have no choice but to do both at least freshen up your grammar and build up a basic vocabulary bank so you can later save money and time.go get the grammarway 1,2,3(greek editions) by evans,express publishing.these will give you a solid base to work on.take care!
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hi...
i have a "simple" question...Can you explain me what B1,B2,B3 are ??
this year, i passed the F.C.E & ECCE exams and i am very happy!!!
A1,A2,B1,B2,C1,C2 are levels of linguistic aquisition.basically the are proof of how good your english is(written and oral)fce/ecce are b2 certificates.profs are c2 level.
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Kellyj, hello!!!
I'm Zoi from Thessaloniki and I have stopped practicing my English about 4 or 5 years ago.. And finally i start up again with them....
So I'm looking to the Internet, what about the exams. So i found that they are starting for a small level and i decided to take them....
So now you are coming in...
I stopped my English education at pre lower, so i would have to start again from there but on my one...
Can you give me some prepositions about books? With grammar, vocabulary, listening and everything I need so
if you stopped so many years ago then believe me you have to start from elementary level(bsenior)you might think you remember a lot but trust me when i tell you you don't!being an adult only means that you're more serious and determined to finish your english this time but you are by no means capable of studying on your own.especially if you want to pursue a certificate.find a teacher as soon as possible!
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i've got a question: what's the next level after the IGCSE and proficiency? i'm studying them at the same time and i would like to know. the exams are coming, and they're coming fast! please, i need an answer!
hi,dear!firstly, for a 13-year-old you're very busy!congrats!but listen carefully:the igcse is not a level of linguistic aquisition,so if you're doing this it means you attend a private school and you tutors can aswer all your qs.also,you didn't tell me which level you're in(core or extended)
finally, even if you're a genius, 13 is way too young to be sitting the prof.,not to mention that by the time you make use of it you will probably be asked to submit a new certification as it will be considered obsolete.be more specific next time sweetie!
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Thank so much about the explaination of michigan exam....Do you believe that I could get the michigan exam????
I have a huge problem..I do not believe in myself because my teachers told me that I will never get the lower which I want ,also, they told me that I do not know anything about the english language...Especially one of them ,she offends me in the class...My best friend said me to think positive but I am very sad and I believe that I will not get the michigan and the edexcel...
My psychology is very bad ...
What can I do about this??
sorry for getting back to you so late but i was out of town.now i'm really sad that you feel so down.as for your english the only thing i can tell you is that it's never too late!your english must be trully horrible for your teacher to talk like that ,but to be honest even if you were the worst student ever... nobody has the right to talk like that.1st of all, go to the principal of your school and complain(she might have no idea that one of her teachers behaves like that)2ndly, talk to your parents about all of this.3dly, demand another teacher or a private lesson with another teacher of the school.there are so many things you could do but above all talk to your family and frontistirio owner.if your english is so poor and 3 months wont be enough to make a difference then try the may exams for the experience,change schools and pursue the december exams.don't despair!it's only english!not the end of the world!what should matter the most is whether you learn or not.
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welcome kellyj ,have fun in our company!!!My name is Lili (from Evangelia) and I am 14 years old!!The previous summer I took the Preliminary English Test (pet -B1) and this year I gonna take the Lower of Michigan and another lower called "edexcel".To tell the truth I am not so good at english...so,I attend the lessons of english language from obligation only...Well...Could you tell me about the difficult level on those lowers???
Thank you!
dear lili.all exam formats have their pros and cons.michigan looks appealing cause you don't have to write but distractor skills(choosing among a,b,c,d)are an advanced process of elimination which means that multiple choice qs look easy but in fact they are not.not to mention that the marking scheme for the 4 parts is anything but clear for example i had 2 students who received the exact marks on all parts but one failed whereas the other passed and no justification was given to me by the hellenicamerican union;in fact they told me not to bother and that i would never be given an explanation even from the university.basically they told me they had no idea.i have to go now but i'll get back to you on this matter as soon as i can and tell you more.
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of course kelly i know this point but now i dont have a lot free time in order to continue my english lessons but when i finish highschool and i will pass in the university i am going to return back to my english lessons and i will study in order to pass in proficiency
i have to warn you that it's going to be much harder to combine both at that time so if there is any way you can suck it up for 9 months and finish the damn thing now,then go for it!
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first of all welcome to our membership.My name is Antonis and i nice to meet you.I was learning english for 5 years and i achieve to pass up to b2 level,so now i dont have any questions about the english exams.
dear antoni, congratulations for being awarded the b2 level but i must warn you that it's totally useless in the real world!you either have a prof. or you have nothing.b2 level is by no means a competitive level!so if i were you i would go back to school!
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Well my name's Chris. I'm vrom Veria. In May, I'm gonna take 2 C2 Exams in order to become an English Teacher... This is my dream...
cear chris i applaud you for your dreams, study hard and if you have any qs or worries ask away!
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thank you!
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