Το περίμενα, αν και άργησες λίγο να αναφέρεις τις «φτωχες» πρώην κομμουνιστικές χώρες που πιστεύεις ότι πληρώνουμε τους καθηγητές με εικοσάρικο και μας βάζουν 10 χωρίς διάβασμα, είμαστε χωρίς μυαλό τι να κάνουμε
Γιατί στο καλό εξωτερικό (Harvard, Yale, Princeton κλπ) πάνε οι αφρόκρεμες (δηλαδή το 0.00005% όσων δίνουν).
Αα ναι το καλό Harvard… όπου αν δεν έχεις από τον μπαμπάκα σου 60κ το χρόνο για να δωσεις για την ιατρική λίγο δύσκολο να προχωρήσεις, αντε μακάρι να είσαι από το 10% που παίρνει scholarship.
Στο πραγματικό "εξωτερικό" (Βουλγαρία, Σκόπια, Ρουμανία) πάνε τα πραγματικά λιμά.
Το έχω συζητήσει και πει 100 φορές έχω κάνει και θέμα αλλά δυστυχώς τα στερεότυπα όπως έχω πει καλά κρατούν, μέχρι και με αυτό το μήνυμα σπατάλησα αρκετη ενέργεια που θα μπορούσα να απαντήσω στο παιδί που ψάχνει για οδηγίες, κρίμα που αρκετοί την «χτυπατε» ανελέητα επειδή δεν διάλεξε την τόσο μορφωμένη, πολιτισμένη γεμάτο μοντέρνο εξοπλισμό, με νοσοκομεία που χαίρουν διεθνής αναγνώρισης Ελλάδα. Τέλος πάντων
Όμως και τα τρία μου περιέγραψαν διαφορετικά την διαδικασία προετοιμασίας και έτσι έχω <πελαγώσει>, για αυτό αν μπορεί ας με ενημερώσει κάποιος υπεύθυνα ή ακόμη καλύτερα κάποιος που το έχει περάσει όλο αυτό. Προσοχή θέλω να ενημερωθώ για το περιεχόμενο των test και όχι για το τι δικαιολογητικά πρέπει να καταθέσω. Ευχαριστώ εκ των προτέρων.
Καλησπέρα Δήμητρα!
Καταρχάς συγχαρητήρια για το κουράγιο και την δύναμη σου!
Σου παραθέτω ότι έχω βρει στα Αγγλικά που πιστεύω θα σε καλύψει (με συγχωρείται που δεν είναι στα Ελληνικά)
ΜΕΓΑΛΟ ΚΕΙΜΕΝΟ ΣΤΑ ΑΓΓΛΙΚΑ
Currently, there are two Dutch universities offering a bachelor's in medicine in English - the University of Groningen and Maastricht University. This guide is specifically targeted toward those considering English-taught programmes, but a lot of information apply to Dutch-taught programmes as well. Please note that the master's is entirely in Dutch, so you will have to learn Dutch to a proficient level (Groningen requires passing Dutch C1) before you can progress to the master's. I study medicine at Groningen, so much of the following will be specific for Groningen. I don't know about other
Dutch medical programmes, so be sure to carefully read the websites of universities you're interested in.
Here are links to Groningen and Maastricht's medicine programmes.
Admission Procedure
To apply to any Dutch university programme, you need a Studielink (
www.studielink.nl) account. Unless you have lived in the Netherlands, use "create a Studielink-account without DigiD." Then you can submit an application for your desired degree programme at your desired university. This application is very simple - basically just filling in your personal information.
Universities will contact you for further information. If I remember correctly, Studielink opens on October 1st and the application deadline is January 15th. Medicine is a numerus fixus programme in the Netherlands, which means there is a fixed number of places at each university each year and a selection procedure (i.e. entrance exam). The selection is organized by each university individually (usually takes place in mid-February) and you need to go to the university on selection day to take the exam. You can only apply to one medicine programme a year. Now l'll talk about what Groningen's selection looks like so you'll have a general idea (but of course, each university organizes their own selection, so differences are to be expected).
After the application deadline, the university will send you study materials and assignments that you need to prepare in the month before the selection. Then you go to Groningen on selection day. Groningen's selection lasts for an entire day and consists of four tests:
- Cognitive test 1 (1.5 hrs) and non-cognitive test 1 (1 hr) in the morning;
- Cognitive test 2 (1 hr) and non-cognitive test 2 (1.5 hrs) in the afternoon.
- Coanitive tact 1 A multinle choira tact on tha ctudy
- Your prior knowledge does not matter (unless you just happen to have studied the topic they choose before).
For example, the topic when I participated in the selection was transplant immunology. We got a textbook chapter to read (~40 pages) and several scientific journal articles.
Non-cognitive test 1
This test has the same format as the Situational
Judgement part of the UCAT. You're presented with 10 different scenarios that you might face as a medical student and each scenario is accompanied by 6 reactions/responses. You need to rate each response on a scale from 1 (very unprofessional) to 5 (very professional). They say it's impossible to prepare for this test, but try to practice UCAT Situational Judgement as much as possible (I still did horribly btw, since I just don't understand their reasoning behind these questions).
Cognitive test 2
Critical reading test. You do not need to and cannot prepare for it. There's a short article on a certain medical topic/issue (my year it was polypharmacy) and you need to answer some multiple choice and short answer questions. Multiple choice questions are about the article contents. Short answer questions can look like: give a 100-word summary of the article, propose an experiment/initiative to deal with the aforementioned issue, what are the limitations of your proposal, etc.
Non-cognitive test 2
This test consists of about a dozen short answer questions. Answering concisely and budgeting your time well are essential since you'll be pressed for time.
Questions range from the preparatory assignments*,
why you want to study at Groningen (we were given a short article on regional health issues and the demographics of Groningen and asked why we want to study there, how you plan to learn Dutch and so on.
*My year the preparatory assignments were 1) read a website on health inequalities by 2040 and make a one-page summary; 2) interview three people on their experiences interacting with healthcare professionals from different backgrounds than themselves and how differences in background characteristics impacted their communication. One-page interview report for each. The website summary and interview reports need to be handed in on selection day, but they are not graded.
Portfolio
You also need to assemble a portfolio (to be handed in on selection day) with your information and prior education (the template is given, you just need to fill it in). You get extra points if your high school grades are equivalent to at least 8 out of 10 on the Dutch scale or if you have "top-class achievements" (usually some kind of award). How are the selection tests evaluated?
First they look at cognitive test 1 and non-cognitive test 1 together. The bottom 10 or 15 (I can't remember exactly) percent is eliminated. For the rest, they calculate standardized scores for each test, i.e. (you score - average)/standard deviation (so if you score below average on a test, your score will be negative!).
Your four standardized scores and portfolio score are added together, and then your total score is ranked from highest to lowest. Groningen has 410 places each year (although they're downsizing the programme starting 2021-2022), so if your rank is between 1 and 410, you get in. If you rank is higher than 410, you have to wait and see if places open up when admitted people decide not to enroll. Rankings are released on Studielink on April 15th.
Entry Requirements
Again, it's extremely important to check the website of the university you're applying to for entry requirements and contact the admissions office well in advance if you have questions about your previous qualifications.
Usually, medicine programmes require biology, chemistry, physics and mathematics equivalent to Dutch VWO level (some equivalents include AP, A-levels and IB), an English language test (e.g. TOEFL, IELTS) plus passing the selection. Your previous coursework needs to be submitted and evaluated by the university in advance if your diploma is not Dutch.
What happens if you don't meet requirements for a particular subject? At Groningen (I can't speak for other universities), they can issue you a conditional offer with "deficiencies" in certain subjects. Before enrolling, you need to take and pass external exams (CCVX or Boswell-Beta) to make up for the deficiencies.
Αυτά είναι από έναν φοιτητή από το Groningen που ελπίζω θα άου φανούν χρήσιμα!
Οποτε Δήμητρα και πάλι σου εύχομαι καλό κουράγιο και δύναμη,
μην ακούς κανέναν που προσπαθεί να σε μειώσει και να βάλει εμπόδια στους στόχους σου, είτε είναι σε φόρουμ είτε στη ζωή είτε μέχρι και οι ίδιοι σου οι γονείς, αν έχεις στόχο θα καταφέρεις τα παντα! 
