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23-01-10
21:24
I think you are very keen on speaking latin, aren't you?Actually, if they speak and/ or write in Latin, we should consider it as a living language!!!
I hope I didn't disappoint you...!!!
The truth is that, even if they do not speak in latin (which sounds a bit unreasonable to me as well) and they use it only in formal documents, it is regarded as a living language... That is because they still produce NEW latin texts!
Next time you see me, ask me "Quid agis?"
My answer "Multum bene! Et tu? "
To my mind, a language can be considered as a living language, only when it is used by people. It is like καθαρευουσα (archaic) in Greek. The government insisted on using it. Even in school students had to learn it. I don't know, but I think of this as a perversion, because they didn't use the "kind" of language they used to speak. It is like they tried to stop the natural evolution of language using the archaic.
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23-01-10
20:48
Personally I do not think that the residents of Vatican speak Latin. Vatican is just a small part of Rome, so I can' t believe that all Rome speaks Italian, while in Vatican they speak Latin. I do not cosider it as a living language.Well, if it is a living language, with speakers that have it as their mother tongue, then I guess you can. Btw, what does "Thanous" mean?
No I can't
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22-01-10
11:28
That 's right! "Tu es" in latin is exactly the same with "tu es" in french, but it is pronounced differently. As I know, western European languages derived from latin, especially Italian, French, Spanish, Portoguese and Romanian. This is what I was taught. Even English has many many words that derive from latin and ancient Greek of course. But these languages were not entirely evolved from Latin. They are a mix of latin, dialects of each country and "barbarian" languages as αναγνωστης has mentioned. Therefore, we cannot consider them as a natural evolution of latin, in the way modern Greek is a natural evolution of ancient Greek. I think you can find some books that can explain in depth all these.Personally, I don't know any other romance language besides French. When I started learning latin though I noticed a great number of similarities between latin and french. The present tense of the latin verb "sum", for example, is quite similar with its french equivalent! Moreover, the majority of the french words are latin "descendants". So, probably, the influence of the local languages that were mixed with latin, creating the neo-latin languages, is limited to some influences in the form (morphology) of words (suffixes, prefixes) and not in their route... I'm not a linguist however, therefore I'm not certain that this conclusion is completely accurate... I thought I'd give it a try, though, and I formed it on the basis of my limited knowledge on Comparative linguistics...
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In Vatican, Latin is still the official language of the government and all documents are written in Latin. Personally, I don't know whether this language can be considered as modern latin. And of course latin is still the language of the Catholic Church.
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21-01-10
03:02
That 's very truth, my friend. If you study Italian, you can understand how it differs from latin. It's very very different. Actually, French is much closer to Latin. On the contrary, ancient Greek evolved. Modern greek is in fact the evolution of the ancient greek and they don't differ a lot. In addition, the word "Greek" follows each; Ancient Greek ,Modern Greek. Italians do not speak modern latin. But I cannot understand why this happened to Latin.Latin is not ancient Italian Italian derived from it, the same way Spanish does, but it didn't develop from it, the same way Greek did from ancient Greek.
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So do I.It doesn't matter... You're taking Italian courses!!!! You're so lucky...!!!
I study as well at the School of Philosophy (in Athens), but we don't have this kind of electives (on foreign languages / literature...). I wish we did though... I really like foreign and comparative literature...!!!!
That's why I study English Literature in the Faculty of Philosophy in Aristotle University. Do you study (Greek) Literature?
As for Italian, I had to choose a foreign language. So I chose Italian instead of German or French.
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19-01-10
20:49
It is an elective course and I have to take it in the exam period in the university.
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19-01-10
20:42
I wanna pass my Italian exams!!
And now I 'm leaving..
I 'm gonna play the piano!
And now I 'm leaving..
I 'm gonna play the piano!
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19-01-10
04:29
I liked the above conversation a lot. By the way, I love English literature, especially when psychology and sociology are involved. I like searching the depth of the characters and the situations in literature. I am very keen on analysing metafictional stories. They are intelligent!!
(totally irrelevant to the above)
I need to cut off some old habits like this. Find my best me again. Improve my life. I will go mad, otherwise. I want to find what and who fullfills me.
I made a lot of mistakes. I 'm kinda jerk. 'Cause I stuck here. I am gonna stop this. It kills me. I am gonna be set free! I am gonna make up my mind.
(totally irrelevant to the above)
I need to cut off some old habits like this. Find my best me again. Improve my life. I will go mad, otherwise. I want to find what and who fullfills me.
I made a lot of mistakes. I 'm kinda jerk. 'Cause I stuck here. I am gonna stop this. It kills me. I am gonna be set free! I am gonna make up my mind.
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